Traditions IS NOT part of bpi. I pissed cva off by asking about the traditions kentucky classic lol. I thought they were bpi but they are not.I own the traditions kentucky classic and it truely is a great product. I own 2 1/2 BP rifles. Winchester x150, traditions kentucky classic and im building a .36 rifle that uses a traditions frontier gander 28" barrel. ive had no problems with any of these guns ive bought from cva or traditions. And i sure in hell am not paying $500+ of a TC that does the same job the lower value rifles do. If not better... And a rifle is only going to last a long time in the hands of a person that takes proper care of it.