I too have spoken to Farbman, and posted about that convo in your thread about future WHA postings, and yet received no reply. Maybe it was missed,but we all are concerned and I for one am keeping an open mind, and an open dialogue with Farbman overe these isues. He actually told me that the darting was nixed, and several other changes were made from pressure he has received from those of us who took the time to converse with him. I made several other suggestions and voice other concerns,which I wrote about in my previous post( especiallyconcerning the image of hunting as a whole, and the issues of ethics concerning fair chase, competition,etc.,and his point system). It seems as though only certain posters get replies, and others are overlooked, and that may just be a perception issue--at least I hope so. He is determned to go forward, and the only way to have any kind of true influence and or impact in the final product, is to remain soberminded, and to not be controlledin the emotional aspects of our passion. I truly want to see hunting around for my sons, and their sons. I don't want WHA or anything else to jeopardize its future, but if we want to influence its outcome, then we need to be wise as serpents and harmless as doves in our approach. Farbman has offered to send me a pilot of the first show for my opinion after review. He also requested to sit down over dinner in Atlanta in about 3 weeks to have some further discussions. I intend to do just that. I am not in his camp,but I am not going to be a jerk towards him, in hopes that some honey will keep the bee attracted long enough to make a real difference in what he plans to do--for the sake of the future of hunting and our reputation as hunters, seeing that we are fairly represented in what is portrayed.