I have started shooting a lot more this year and hope to keep it up. Although, now it seems to be more difficult to clean my guns.

I am looking to switch from Hoppes #9 to something that works better at removing copper, etc and general gun cleaning. I use # 9 only because I had so much of it from years ago. I really think that some of the newer products have to work better. Thought of Butch's, Sweets and Barnes, but have no experince with any.

Also, what does everyone use for lubrication and rust protection. I just ordered some Kroil from Midway to try it out.

Thanks!!