I think everyone needs to go and re-read the original post. No where does atlasman say anything against people who use these gadgets What I get out of it is look around the board there are so many post about fenced hunts and things like that when the same person who is complaining is the same guy who starts a thread about baiting or what to plant in their food plot(not that there is anything wrong with that if its legal hav at it who cares what others believe) but how is that considered fair chase when having a food plot or a feeder is almost better than a fence because you no exactly where the deer will be and know they will be there. As far as what atlasman says about gear my take on it is that having a fast bow is a big advantage over say a traditional bow for example IMO anyone could pick up a compound and be able to take a deer within a few days(same with high powered rifle) ask any traditional shooter if that is possible with a recurve or long bow I bet I know what they would tell you(not saying that your not a real hunter unless you use as primative tool there is because that is just not true). As far as trail cams, how is that fair are they once again you know exactly what is there and when it is going to be there. No where does atlasman condem(sp?) anyone for using them as he has stated everytime he has defended his post. Maybe I am reading his post wrong but this is what I get out of it. Good luck and stay safe this hunting season.