I understand your reply as I was a little bit vague. Allow me to clarify. I hunt in several areas all across my state, encompassing thousands of acres. And in each area I have an intimate knowledge of the local herd and management concerns. When hunting on my private farm that is only about 100 acres I am extremely conservative about the amount of deer harvested and all guests are aware of what we try to do there. In contrast, when I am dog hunting the area we hunt is thousands of acres in extremely rural areas. These areas are made up of massive woodlots, swampland, marshland, and agriculture on top of agriculture. These areas have an extremely high carrying capacity for whitetails. We harvest lots of deer and still never meet the expected harvest total that the local DNR representatives recommend. We are issued DMAP stamps by the 100's to help reduce doe numbers and to assist local farmers. If we don't kill enough of them then the farmers are often issued DCAP tags to eliminate deer and they can do this any time of year, night or day and the deer are not to be used (meaning they leave them lay). I would certainly rather kill them during the season and have the venison used. Our club alone donated over 2500 lbs of venison to local people and to Hunters for the Hungry. I love deer hunting and the hunt is in me but I'm not sure that means I love deer. I respect my prey, I love my dog. Wait, I take that back I do love deer.....and potatoes.....and gravy....and biscuits.J/K