Thanx for the link. They had the Summit Viper Extreme XLS (the next up model) for cheaper than basspro had the viper xls. So I think I'll go through them, unless I find something cheaper, but cheaper isn't always better, customer service is a big seller for me also. Have you had any problems with these people? I'm sure you haven't or you wouldn't have recommended them, but it never hurts to ask.

Oz