I use to use 777 in both pellets and experimented with the loose. Pretty much had to swab between shots.

Why do I swab between shots with the APP? Good question!

I noticed a big difference in the amount of crud compared to 777. I even considered not swabing with the APP but went ahead and did it anyway.I just thought that each shot with a clean barrel would be best.

I wasn't aware that they did not reccomend swabing when using APP.
Good to know.

No, I haven't tried any other bullets, except a few Powerbelts. They were 245grn. and did not group very well.

I did have excellent groups with 90 grns of 777 and a 250 grn. SW. I just did not care for the crud build up at the bottom of the barrel with the 777.

I'll try again on a cooler day.

I'm basically new to muzzle loaders and I am learning much from you guys. Thanks !