Not tuff enuff is pink ars'd. Tuff but diffrn't is crazy. Hmmm. Don't hunt solo, huntin alone would be loco. Partn'r and I back pack in but not far nuff to put on no 120 miles. First one gets an elk we're done, nuff for both of us fer a year. Average cow deboned, no rug, takes two trips for two of us - more than that means we hire a packer. Not crazy, not pink ars'd.