i went to dicks sporting good last weekend and bought the viper clasic for $140. i have used it twice scoutingand really like it. i have used other climbers but this one is defently the best i have used. i got the clasic and not the ss viper only because i cant justify spending the extra hundred dollars for a 5 pound lighter stand. jmo. i dont know what it is about these stands that makes them feel more secure but they do and not to mention they areeasy on the butt, for long hunts/scouts. hope this helped
Jeff Smith