dont listen to cthunter8. If i remember correct hes a 14 year old boy thats known for stirring things up. If you want to start off muzzleloading, Buy a cheap but good quality rifle Like a CVA. You can pick up a cva bobcat for $60-100. Its a nice shooting old style rifle that will help you build your skills on. You dont want to buy something expensive and then be like, oh jeez muzzleloading is to hard,screw this! CVA bobcat will do good if you want an old style muzzleloader. CVA also sells a cheap but good quality $110 inline at cabelas. Personally, I would buy the bobcat, Learn on that and then buy an upscale sidelock. Its always a good idea to buy an inline later on and take it whe you go out camping. After a few days of hunting and not being able to work into range with the side lock, pull out the inline and fill your tag with a longer distance shot lol. cva also sells refurbished rifles, i bought one and it was like brand new. Something you might want to check into. But yeah dont listen to that boy, 1000grains of blackpowder would kill you and anyone standing near you. If you get a bobcat rifle, no more than 100 grains of powder.