Leupols all the way!I have the older and newer model and I love them both.They are great in low light conditions and are the clearest scope for the money I have ever seen.I also love their custemer service too.My old one had the gass go bad after many years of service.I sent it too them and they did a total rebuild.They put on a new main tube,a new seal,new lenses and gasted it all free of charge.When I got it back it looked like I went to the store and got a new one.I got it back within10 days and they paid the shipping to send it back to me.All I was out is the $7.50 for the shipping to get it too them.I dont think you can beat that for custemer service.It is a good quality scope with great customer service to back it all up.I will never buy anything but a Leupold.If you are looking to get a good price on a used leupold go onto ebay.