Thanks for the info guys. Triple Se7en are saying that I should try maybe 90-95grns if I want to shhot 100yrds plus? I tried shooting the 300grn sst/ml's but I couldn't get in down the barrel due to thicker sabot. But i did notice that the local shop did sell bags of sabots but not sure what type they were. What type come with the 240grn xtp's? (they are green, the sst/ml's were a black sabot)