Henry: guess I shoulda pm'ed ya, lol but I've hated them things ever since I got em. Been looking for a good way to get rid of them, they pizzme off every time I look at them. I had to track one of them down twice when the bears decided to play volley ball w/ it, which only further irritated me, just hate to lose stuff. the fact that you can use them is great although the circumstances aren't. I've tried giving them away down here, but even the Arkies don't like them lol. You gotta pm. I think the price is right, if not let me know.