you know i read all these posts ., and there is alot of good and some bad about hunting land with or with out fence ., pay or not pay., what/ever.!!, but im in a spot where i dont have the money,. to buy a buck ,and i dont have the money to buy the land .,does that bother me., not really ., i just go into a mode ofhow can i make myselof a better hunter in these conditions., yes i watch ALL the hunting shows i can ., weather it be high fence or not ., it is still entertaining to me! and i learn at least one if not more things about hunting in each show.,and i take that ,what i learn ,to the woods with me., my daughter is now hunting with me and she is being tought by me ethics.,safty., and how to pattern deer., hey i have seen, but not shot, some of the biggest bucks in public land.,so let them hunt how they want fence or not., pay or not ., just try to enjoy and pick up some good tips. to help you out in the woods., good luck hunting this fall everybody and shoot stright!!,J/M/O/