You know, I was actually going through some of my old camo last night and found a bunch of the old Mossy Oak Forest Floor stuff... Not near the contrast that I've come to love, but -- boy, their older stuff (ESPECIALLY the old Breakup) sure did look a lot better than what they've got out now. I actually do like the Obsession because at least there's a color contrast there. I don't think it does any good when it goes black and white, but it's better.