Spend time in the woods?That's funny.I spend more time in the woods than anyone I know.Just ask my wife.

The FLIR was done onstate forest land.They only counted the deer in the dmap areas.

You keep getting hung up on the over winter deer density.That 16 deer over winter will provide over 20 deer in the fall,even more if the habitat was in better shape.

Most of 2E is private property.Other than that small piece of Moshannon state forest,it's all private.There's still lots of places to hunt in that area.I've killed a bunch of deer on Knisely's land and Orners land.Anyone can hunt there if they ask.Eighty percent of Pa is private land and most of it gets hunted very hard.