i probably should have explained that better, we do hunt alot of the public land that surrounds our property, and the stands are spread out over quite a bit of area,and 4 or 5 of the guys only hunt the opening weekend of rifle season. im ont exactly sure of the population density or buck to doe ratio, but i do know from my trail cam pics and the deer ive seen bowhunting that there were at least 4 different bucks on our property that were 8's or better. the main problem im forseeing is that most of these guys dont really care about shooting big bucks, or small bucks, or does. they hunt for meat, and i dont wanna say they're "if its brown its down" hunters, but they dont seem to apt to convert to QDM.