Wouldn't go the fairly cheap but good site route. I'm sure there are some and you could check them out at a store that carried many like cabela's, but I want more out of one that an inexpensive one wouldn't come with. The copper john deadnuts pro 111 is inexpensive relatively speaking and gets it done. It's around 80 bucks. I would get get one again, but would like a site with more features costing as much as double the cp 111.

Cabela's must have 60 on display.