I hate both my climber and chain-on because they are way too small, how could anyone spend a whole day in one?
I put hardwood pallets (skids) in trees and they are awsome, I can stretch out, touch my toes, even do some sit-ups if I wanted. I make them safe by securing them from underneath to 2x4s that are both nailed and screwed into the tree, and then I secure each corner with eye bolts / airplane cable tolag boltsin the tree above the stand.Two of sections ofTV tower secured to the tree make a great ladder, and voila, a great big, comfortable, and safe stand.
Here is a pic taken with my legs stretched out, of course this is private land, probably won't be allowed on public.
