Thanks Reb, I bookmarked that hog first time I saw it, and believe you posted it then. I'm planning on trying for double lungers, should be in a blind w/ shooting rest under 30. I thought the lungs were a little higher than they appear in picture. Looks like I need to go right behind that leg joint just above the heart?? I know when I put down that 50-60 lber I just went behind top of shoulder and he didn't go far, lots of blood, both sides. I'll sure take all the advice I can get from a pro like you!! I'm guessing here, but by behind the ear, you mean a spine shot right?? I'm gonna use 100 gr Slick Tricks, they are all I have, but can put them where I want em to go.