When I said I see 5 that was for the first day of rifle. I never said I saw 5 deer per day. If I did I wouldnt complain at all. Vegetation is good. There isnt alot of pressure and cover is excellent for them. I do hunt and scout. I dont hunt the same spot. There are days I dont see any deer at all. Lucky if I see one off in the distance. Those 30 deer I saw were on the first day of deer. You guys arent reading what I am putting down. And it is an endless arguement. The original poster asked how many deer do we take per season, not how many we see. I guess I should have said , I shoot my one deer and Im done. Sure I could shoot more. But I choose not too and then you guys come in and "attack" (maybe not a good word) me on my hunting skills. I just said I wasnt gonna rifle hunt anymore and that we should go back to the 2 week buck and 3 day doe. I know we cant make special rules for every hunting spot but maybe county by county? It has been said that there are alot of deer in Allegheny County but alot of hunters in this area say there isnt as many. Should we make special regulations for each county? I dont know if that would work. I dont have an answer. I only suggested that we go back to the old hunting days.