you got to be kidding me solitary. Out in the boon docks of eastern ky, only thing you could get was coreloks from k-mart in Pikeville, ky. And besides, I was so broke, I couldnt' pay attention back then, and I didn't know any better, and shot the cheapest I could find. I remember when I bought my first pistol in the 80's, I had to have these fancy hydroshoks. So I drove to Charleston, WV over 2 hours away to get them.