I was told about 6 months back that Traditions was not part of BPI. I thought they were and told them what i wanted to buy * my current traditions kentucky rifle* and they said they had no clue because they are not part of traditions. Who the heck no anymore these days. But yeah, cva, winchester, traditions are all great companys. I shoot the winchester x-150 and have zero complaints. Also owned a cva staghorn and was very happy with it. Personally, i wont buy a TC because they are over priced and from what i see on forums, they only shoot well with a couple of bullets. Buy what you can afford untill you can buy what you really want. I wont buy another inline due to the Winchester being accurate and very well built. It has the 26" fluted stainless steel barrel, camo stock and fiber optic sights. Great shooting gun. My ex girl friend paid $340 because i wanted the kit with it. haha that kit was crappy so just make sure you buy your gun with out the kit and buy your own powder holder and bullets. The kits most muzzleloaders offer are cheap and only useful at the range. The cva wolf looks like a good inline Or the NEF, i held one of those a few months back and looked at it good. That to seemed to be a good muzzleloader. I shy away from wooden stocks for inlines tho. If you hunt in wet weather they tend to swell.