And last and for sure least is the "standard" for pre 2001 carved limb tips. it would appear to be endless loop something or other. Kinda reminds me of the joke where a guy was asked if he knew the difference between ignorance and apathy. He replied: "I don't know, and I don't care". Sums up my feelings about this little goodie as I have no need for it. Did ya'll notice while I'm slaving over a keyboard to enhance general knowlege, my pals are cutting me to pieces?? Here's the "standard" on antique carved tip: