When I got my crossbow I went and got a scope to and the frist thing I did when I got home was put it on. I liked it but I was reading some post on here and some pople was saying that thay could shoot later in the day with the red dot so I put the red dot back on and shoot it a few times all the way up to 9:00 p.m. so I put the scope on e-bay and made me 30.00 on top have whatI got it for. I will stay with the red dot "jmo".