OK i went out this morning and shot 36 times at 40 yds. My arrows were every where from 12 1/2" low up to 10" and 9" low off to either side. Didn't have this problem wid peep. I found out all fletching is hitting scope mounts and they take off to where ever the want to go! Bummer i got to change something as i can't hunt deer with it doing that![][:-][&o]