I agree that these conicals do load very loose. Although as the barrel fowls out, they fit much tighter and better. I think it was UC or Surveyor that was talking about teflon taping them to keep the first one in the barrel. I am going to be testing that a little more in the near future.

I had tried to shake them off the loads. The No Excuse Conicals which are .503 I can move off the load and shake them right back out the barrel. The BullShop fit a little tighter although this batch I got this time are not as tight as the last batch, which is why I want to try a few things with them. I think that's why a lot of the people are asking for a .5045 instead of the .504. I like the accuracy I get with these and will stick with them.

As for loading, I use a heavy range rod. After I seat the wads, I put the bullet into the muzzle and the weight of the rod will seat the projectile almost. Although when shooting Goex this is not the case and I suspect this is because of the additional fowling in the barrel from that powder. Also they would be harder to move off the load with the Goex which I will be testing next week as well.