Well it looks like my experiences were about the same as the majority of you guys then. Sounds to me like this call is on the extreme level of an aggressive grunt. I think I'll stick to my grunt call and rattling bag. Seems to work fine by me and I seriously doubt that a buck that would come into the growl wouldn't come into a grunt tube. Its all about the deer's attitude. I call deer, coyotes, and turkeys, seems like they are all still the same, you get an animal with the right mind set and they come in no matter what the exact sound is as long as it sounds like them. I'm sure all the gimmicks and special calls and noises work, but the good ole faithful work in the same situation.