Well, I use a kisser, a little ball of serving on the string to touch my nose on, I put my knuckle behind my jaw, and I line the string up with the riser. After a while it all becomes natural and you dont even look at the string on the riser, or notice the ball on your nose. But you have to repeat your grip everytime, or else its not going to work right. And Im not using a "no-peep" and if I do my part, Im getting three inch groups at 20 yards with huge pins.