I went to a 3D shoot with a five yard shot at a carp about ten feet down a slope. My buddy says "Looks like a 40 yard shot to me." I thought he was joking and then he hit the 11 ring pinwheeled and said he used his 40 yrd pin. He told me I better do the same thing or I'll be digging my arrow out of the dirt right under him. So I placed my 40 yarder on the 11 and sure enough...bullseye. Who would have thought that that was a 40 yard shot?