ORIGINAL: cayugad
excellent report Phil. There is some information in there I can use when trying to figure out some of the conical I have been shooting. One thing I discovered about Pinnacle and APP is, those powders did not like large conicals or large sabots. As long as I kept them under 300 grains, all systems were a go, and accuracy was exceptional. And as you stated, no swabbing. Goex 3f is my all around do everything powder. Granted I have a couple rifles that shoot better with something different, but Goex 3f will normally produce the best overall groups of all powders. I was going to shoot today but it was 102 degrees out. Just walking around outside was not pleasant. Especially when the house was so nice and cool...
I kinda question just how well fire gets in to ignite the charge in my Sidekick. I even had trouble with the 270's.
I think it takes a fairly heavy charge to getAPP to work right. At low pressures associated with asmall charge (like 50 to 70 grains), i kinda wonder whether its burning the way its designed to. I suspect, though I have no clue, thatit is not. It burns alot like smokeless when you light a little pile of it, and smokeless powders need a minimum pressure to burn as designed, I suspect it is similar. Did you see Elquedello's target using 140 grains of Clean Shot? Very good group, but alot more powder than I care to use. Elquedello eats two or three bowls of wheaties

, I eat one if I'm lucky.
My RS is almost gone. I would be willing to trade the APP fora pound3f Swiss, 3fKIK, or 3f Goex Express to anyone who is having good luck with it (I payed $25 for it). When the RS, Pyro, and APP is gone, I'm pretty sure that BP will be all I use from now on. Unless I can't find it locally anymore. Itsdirtier, but it really isn't all that bad, especially in with the stainless barrel of the sidekick. Cleaned up fast when I got her home.
Happy Hunting, Phil