RICHIE3, Did I say something? It's just that this is such a hard post to answer. Seems like we have a good guy here who just messed up and UNlike many people, he admits his mistake. To complicate matters, his young son is involved. Being the father of two boys who love to hunt, I know how ken/bear wants to do the right thing, more for his son than himself. I have to admire the fact that this kid is learning a very hard lesson - it will stay with him his whole life. Back to what I said.... yep, I hate to say what you said and I agree completely with what you said. Confused yet? Jim