Well, I found aPhoenix for $349 w/ shipping, V-zone for $79.95 nanananaaa! Some kind of goofy ebay promotion, which I don't do. There is a url for this place, but the price using it is $399. I have an 800 number for this, which will get you the ebay price w/o going to ebay, glad I was a poor itinerant carpenter rather than a sales mogul. I am totally confused by the guy I talked to, but you can get confused and possibly a cheap Excal at 1-800-745-4296. It may take you awhile to sort thru the horse-puckey, but stick w/ it, he'll come across. lol lol. Ain't life grand??

One other little thing, I'm no authority on Excals, if you folks want a college education on them, go to Excals site and read the 150 or so back pages. only took me a month and a half. lol