currently trying to get a buddy of mine to stop stringing his the old way, putting a leg through, he is backwards all the way around on it but it is working for him. The shame thing is the bow is almost 50 years old, his gramps, with something special to it! Its going to be a shame when it finally blows that and/or he twists his limbs to kingdom come! btw, he might be another checkmate shooter hehe. Hey Chad, just how do I get stock in the buisness <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>!