on moon lit nights(expecialy with snow cover)i have never had good luck.when the moon is 1/2,3/4 or full i stay home and keep the wife happy.somtimes on moonless nights with snow cover i like to hunker down in a hedge row,call and wait for one to run by.this tactic works good but you have to hide good or they will pick you.half volume on a call box for reds is way to much volume.i should have mentioned this earlyer in this topic but it just completely slip my mind.thanks to ridge runner he reminded me of this very important thing when calling reds.always(regardless if using call box or hand calls)start off your calling low,about #2 on the call box dial.if theres a red within a couple of hundred yards of your location and you come on with super volume he will spook or just sit down and watch never to come in.run the tape at around 2 for 2 to 4 min,if nothing shows raise the volume to around 3 maybe 4 for 10 to 30 seconds and then slowly drop it back down to 2 or less.never get ratical or jerky with the volume switch and never turn off the call box in the middle call burst.wait for a pause then turn the volume down then turn it off.if theres wind,highway noise or anything like that a little more volume maybe nessassary,common sence will go a long way here.stay each stand 15 to 30 min and move on.i like to stay around 30 at each stand some guys leave after 15.when hunting at night just make sure there isn't one sitting and watching you.after you stop calling wait a few min and then kiss the palm off your hand,this will get anything thats hung up to look at you and you should be able to pick there eyes with your light.as far as gray fox pup for reds,never had any luck with it either.stick with rabbit,rodents and as wimp says,woodpecker or any small bird in distress.alot of guys like the yellow hammer wood pecker tape.reds are very finicky and very shy somtimes,loud and aggressive calling at times will turn them off.finnessing them with soft calling will always produce more then loud calling.matt/pa your on the right track as far as forcing set ups,make them go where you can see them.