Thanks for the help. I just got the message from Chad that the Crusader will be sent out ASAP. I guess I'll be buying those arrows this weekend. I think I'll get a couple of 2117's and 2216's and see how they shoot. I also have some 2514's that I shoot from my "other bow", that I'll try.

Being a novice tradional shooter do you think it's better and or cheaper to start out with the alum arrows, then once I stop shooting them into my wood backstop when I miss the bag target, change to wood?