Well Bloodbro, you know some very lazy unmotivated kids. I suggest to you that maybe we don't need the folks that want to take the shortcuts. I'm telling you, most kids don't know EVERYTHING like yours. It's a method of policing our own before someone else does it. If we didn't do it the antis would demand it. AND, they'd demand to have instructors and antis involved. It would become political and could very well spend the end of hunting. You have to take a driving test. Do your kids know all that too. Probably most of it, but they have to take the driving test, the written test and behave. You want to hunt, you have to take the test. That's all there is to it. You want to fight it with stupid arguements. Give me a break. You know all these kids that would be hunting if they didn't have to take a test. I bet by the time they're 16 they've taken the classes, taken the test and are driving. I know what's taught in classes, remember... I have taught them for years. Anyway, it's rare that even a parent KNOWS EVERYTHING. Don't exempt yourself out, fit in to the program and do something positive instead of bitching with stupid arguements. You don'thave timeto take a class, you haven't got time to hunt, and this is the off season. MOST hunter safety classes(according to IBef guidlines are 9 hours. We spread ours out usually Tues, Thurs(5:30-9) and Sat.(9-1) IF a kid has his parents permission to attend he'll be there if he wants to hunt. You take the class and test ONCE. From then on it's good in almost all states, canadian provinces and really around the world. What could be simpler. Have your kids ever gotten a hundred on a math test. Probably more than once, but they still had to take the test. They probably laughed about it being so easy. Your attitude of they don't need it only fosters discontent and makes them think they're above it all. You're not helping, you're becoming part of the "I'm different" problem. We don't get paid SQUAT for taking our time to teach classes. We don't get gas money. We don't get SQUAT. We do it to help hunting along. I was ask to teach a class starting Tues. I decided not to. I've been doing this for about 10 years. You can have my spot as soon as you pass the test.[8D]