I would have expected better than that from you Cardeer , Frankly , you disappoint me with that attitude since you're a "self sufficient" kind of guy .

I haven't given up on the concept of free hunting , personally . I still go out and solicit free hunting and am granted access to nearly every place that I've asked permission from . Some of you really depress me with your attitudes , it's obvious to me that some of you have sat on your rumps and haven't even tried to get access , your talk of leasing is all too telling . Leasing is the lazy man's way of getting what you want , and it sickens me . Is bailing a little hay just too much to ask ? Are you too proud to string fence ? God forbid that you should earn "free" access , you might break a nail or something . Go ahead , make the leasing agents job easier by waving dollars , next year you'll be competing head to head with them and they'll win . Contribute to the monster and it will surely grow . Or you could do like me and trade your sweat for access , you'd be surprised by how many farmers respect that more than a buck .