Thanks for the replys guys. Cayugad this sight is supposed to attach to the tang of the renegade,made for the T/C Hawkin or renegade. Will the factory front sight be good or should I plan on changing it too. I wanted a T/C peep sight but this sight was some what cheaper. I know cheaper ain't always better but $ tight. I have got a T/C Hawkins on lay away that my wife is getting me for my B-bay,might have to splurge and get a T/C peepsight for it. These two rifles will be mostly for bench shooting my deer M/L is a New Englander,85 grns T-7 And a PRB.