ROB/PA, Thanks for the reply. I've followed your posts and have read all the others on a daily basis for the past 3 years. A great source of info and I've learned a lot. You have a great looking plot going. As for my 5 acres, I am having 10 tons of lime delivered and spread early next week. I will then disc it in and plant 2 acres in LabLab Plusnext monthsince it was given to me free. The other 3 acres of this field I'm committed to planting Alfarack so I need to decide what annual I want to plant in August knowing it will be disced and prepared for Alfalfa next April if the pH is right. I will probably take Roseaukain's suggestion on the liguid lime and Criggster's on planting a small grain to hopefully have an early fall food source other than the corn and beans on the neighboring farms. Thanks to all for the advice and keep more coming. Everyone have a safe July 4th.