ORIGINAL: Wolfhound76
ORIGINAL: Pglasgow
If Savage thinks that 65 grains of smokeless powder issomething they cannot recommend in their rifles, then I trust that. You can say its safe all you want and so can SMI. I'll put my faith in Savage.
I'm not the one who ok'd the loads, SMI did. Send your complaints to them. <<snip>>
SMI isn't recommending 65 grains in a Savage 10ML.IT seems though that UC and yourself don't minddoing it. Or givingthe unsuspecting foolsome encouragement to attempt 3000 fps with
Fact is, I never said anything about SMI. Never been to their site until you listed the link to their loads. Why would I complain to SMI, when it is instead, you suggesting its an appropriate load for the Savage and providing links to SMI approved loads? Doesn't mean someone won't sue SMI, it just that,if someone does because they felt encouraged by your comments in this thread to use SMI loads in their Savage, and were hurt, I think you should notbe left out either and join SMI as a co-defendent.
And you may have noticed that the powders SMI lists are slower burning powders than the ones Savage lists.
I swear you don't listen. Being safer with a slower burning powder is NOT loading up on it until your pressure peak is the maximum allowed in the rifle. Its having less peak pressure, the same or less energy in the breech, and reduced performance at the muzzle relative to the loads of the faster powders. Packing almost twice the powder because it burnsslowerisn't being safer and is not anywhere as safe as Savage approved loads. Honestly, I think if you would just read the comments you wouldn't find it all that hard to understand and agree.
Regarding there being a bunch of new loads approved by Savage. I will be more than happy to acknowledge them. All Savage has to do is publish them in a public way or maybe you could reference a Savage publication where these new "SMI-like loads" can be found.
I just want you to explain to me why 3500 ft-lb or3900+ ft-lb (UC's mysterious 3000 fps 200 grain projectile) is needed at all in a 50 cal muzzleloader.Sorry, but I just don't buy the "perfectly safe" hypothesis.
Happy Hunting, Phil