Hotburn. My initial post was well intentioned and my joke about the old ball and chainwas just said in fun. I got an Excalibur because it fit my price range and got pretty good reviews. It is wider than I like (the bow not my wife) but I haveonly once shot a deer bow in hand creeping.I did not even take wheels into account. I like my bow and don't really care about a few fps either way because I know when push comes to shove it's not the equipment, it's the hunter. A good pool shooter can use any stick and I would guess within reason any bow discussed here will whack them pretty well.I can't see 30 yds in the woods here so I am not really worried about shooting to much past that. I guess I am just gonna have to humble you in the Hunting contest.