HI-JACKING STILL IN PROGRESS(stay tuned) Dnk,,,I really think you will be pushing up flowers(from underneath) before you convince anybody on an Americanhunting forum that the US gun control laws(all 38,000 of them) are not restrictive enough??????????????????????? Futhermore what the he!! is a Canadian "holding device"??????? What that means here is a fully loaded 44cal SS Charter Arms Bulldog loaded with MagSafes two fully loaded speedloaders and the gun in my right hand, now that is a holding device.....Gun ownership here is not and will not ever be a privilege as long as I draw a breath....Everyone, even you have a moral obligation(given to you by your GOD not byany two-bit government)to protect yourself and your loved ones, even if it takes deadly force... And futhermore I sure hope Dan got his beer and pretzels(or was it popcorn) and where in the he!! does he live that it is 80miles to the nearest bar. My, that is what you call the boonies.....................LOLYOUR ADVERSARY JAY