Just got back from the cottage at the lake. I'm with Mike, the Vixen and aluninum arrows is like meat and potatoes. I have an old Exocet but I really like my Vixen. Heck, the Vixen is the most likely Excal xbow to be seen on a 3D Tournement. Some one tell me what difference I'll see in carbons. Like I said earlier, I have carbons as well but I cannot see any difference. They both shoot minute of death on whitetails and they both shouldn't be used on the same target dot. I see no difference between my XX78's and my Axis or my CX Maximas or my Light Speeds other than if I am dumb enough to shoot the same dots and dent and arrow. Oh yes you're right! I have no fear of shooting my aluninum arrows because they won't do this!