I never had to say you had to go deep to find deer.What I said was the deer herd is way down is some ofmost remote are harshest terrain.These areas recieve very little hunting pressure,yet the herd is way down.It's not hunters that are killing them,it's the habitat and winters of 2003-2004.Ikilled 5 deer this year between Pa and Ohio.Four out of those five deer were killed within a half mile from a road and 2 were very close.I killed one deer that was 1.23 miles from my truck on the last day of rifle season.I saw over 20 deer that day and 18 elk by 10:00am.the only reason I went that far back is because I new the areas was logged in 2001 and it was one of the few places around that had food and cover.That's a steep mountainous area in Sinnemahoningwhere the logs where also air-lifted out.It's pretty expensive to do that and not always practicle.

Crazy horse,you need to revisit reality or at least make an attempt to figure out what reality is.You keep forgetting that the PGC is understaffed and underfunded.Habitat work takes manpower,money and equiptment.They already cut non-valuable trees and do a bunch of habitat improvements.Maybe you should see the work the do in Clearfield,Elk and Jefferson counties.They would do more but they need more money and more manpower.This winter I'll be out there cutting aspen on SGL 93 with the grouse society.Maybe you like to pitch in and help.