I see your point T. I think you could be expieriencing some bad genes, or it could be good genes undeveloped(Armchair Biologist<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>!<img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle>?<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>). Either way there is always an exception to every rule....hopefully one of your kids gets a shot at that palmated four pointer.

As far as shotguns....I'm not a fan of them, but I grew up with rifles and bows. I think it might be an effective tool in the future, but I don't think the PGC will mandate something like that anytime soon. After all, 1 million folks would have to rush out and buy slug guns and rifled barrels for their existing smoothbores. That would be harder to sell to the hunting public than AR. I'm not sure if more deer would get through the season with slug guns....todays slug guns are comparable to rifles up to 100 yards. We all know that a majortiy of deer are taken at 100 yards or less....so, the effectiveness could be touch and go in that respect.

To add a little to the fire....what is the PGC going to change for next year? Anyone have any inside info? What are they going to do if the doe kill isn't as high as they'd like it? Are they going to have high antlerless allotments again to &quot;help&quot;? Are enough people going to be patient enough to see if these AR's are going to work? Will there be an all out fallout of hunter's support after the first season....seeing all the spikes and Y's running around? I've read that wet spring weather tends to produce more and larger racks than dryer, droughtlike conditions. What if the next couple of springs are rather dry?