Smoke, I "almost" have 3 Excals, Exomag,older Exocet,and a Buckmaster Max-Point which Excal makes everything but the split carbon limbs and 175lbs no let off cams(which makes it mightyyyyy fast, oopps I was not supposed to mention that).............Thanks for everybody that WELCOMED me to this forum, appreciate it...........And my bowsshoot almost as "GOOD" as I dooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And to answer the question about Geritol, It keeeeeps us old folks regular, so we do not havejuvenile temper tantrums(at least keeps it to a mininum)