I stayed out of this one and boy it was fun to watch!! You seam like a very good debater and able to keep it cool! I will say you must be wrong about the hortons though! I know they would ever fudge their numbers!! LOL. The whole post seemed very good and your right about people saying how many deer they have missed because of miss judged yards and such. That is why I only shoot at twenty yards because I suck at judgement after that. Also don't know if it was said before but welcome to the CB forum!!