htoler, You really do not need to PM me,unlike you I have read "all" of your posts on this thread.Buy the way that Elite was a 2005 model(185lbs) and it was in tune,with a set of Limbsavers on it. Sorry that I did not write down every time I shot a bow or crossbow or rifle or pistol thru the chrono(I will try to be better at that in the future). And your rant about air rifles,bb's,guns,and etc,etc,etc,my response about "bb's,was not in response to you, it was in response to another person on this topic....If anything Ten-Point should be thankful for I was one of the people who helped get a crossbow season in Maryland(limited as it is).So I will accept a thank you FROM THEM THRU YOU.............A person should shoot whatever he or she is comfortable with, plain and simple......I am sure "most" of you shoot either rifles or slug guns and I am also sure(hopefully so) you sight them in, and trajectory plays a large part of that. Archery equipment is far more critical, if I had a quarter for everytime some one told me they missed because they thought the deer or whatever was 20 and they used their 30 yard pin or vice-versa, I would be wealthy.Try to be the best possible shot you can, our industry DOES NOT need any more bad publicity.......................................An d to Buddy, I got a kick out of your response, I thought every old cogger took their Geritol(I do) and I did not know my Atv had 3rd gear( see ignorance is bliss)