BBO: Well said!! I've sent a pic of my bud Tom w/ three mounts into cyber space, all three scored over 170 Boone and Crocket, two of which were taken w/ a crossbow [no name today lol] that started out w/ 286 fps, lowered some by string and arrow weight change. The third was a gun kill, but I've been told that the odds of one person taking 3 deer over 170 are 16 million to one!! It's all much ado bout nothing. Nothing will beat being familiar w/ your equipment. I read a post recently on another forum where a fellow xbower only could afford a xbow I consider to be one step above a boat anchor, yet he's taken two or three deer w/ it. IMHO, now's the time to practise and get your ranges down for the fall hunting. Don't forget we got a contest going on!! I'm glad he's now a teen-ager, woulda hated to get waxed by a kid! LOL